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Tomorrow is Member Appreciation Day at my gym, so I can bring a friend for free. Would anyone like to join me?

This is a women's gym with an unclear trans policy, so bio-females only, sad to say.

Date: 2009-04-21 03:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nepenthedreams
My boxing class had a transwoman in it before.
It's a great gym - I miss it but I decided 100$/mo for a gym was silly.

Date: 2009-04-21 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-anemone.livejournal.com
That's cool about your boxing class. I have not been able to get anything definitive from the staff about a trans policy, though, and I've heard some bad stories... so that's the reason for my caution.

I think what we spend money on is a pretty personal choice. The gym has fit into my budget pretty well and I definitely feel I'm getting my money's worth.

Date: 2009-04-21 03:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nepenthedreams
Oh yeah - don't feel judged at all!
100$ was silly for me given that I built a dance/exercise studio into my house and I spent over 100$ a month on dance classes at other studios.

Date: 2009-04-21 03:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nepenthedreams
I would guess that the person would have to be at the point in their transition where their driver's license said "F" on it.

Is it discrimination if they ask for anything more than that? I think it may be....if the state has changed your birth certificate, your license card, your passport, then who is the gym to be testing people's chromosomal makeup?

Date: 2009-04-21 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-anemone.livejournal.com
I'm not worried about the gym asking for more than a driver's license. I'm worried about, for instance, one of my friends getting told to leave, or worse, humiliated, because they have an "outie."

Date: 2009-04-21 03:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nepenthedreams
I'm not trans and I'm not going to the gym with you tomorrow - so why would I care who you want to bring with you? I was just thinking it could make for interesting discussion, as I often thought about the ambiguous policy and issues with it back when I was a Healthworks member.

I was just getting into theoretical discussion there. I think it's interesting because in some ways, a private club can make whatever choice they want - to restrict membership to chromosomal females only - or chromosomal males - but where does one draw the line? Could they restrict on race for example? Or on age? If someone WAS humiliated for their chromosomal sex not matching their gender....is that OK? Is it something that person could take legal action on? Clearly this has happened there at the past from what you wrote - is that something that members should put up with? Or protest against? If I had known that it occurred there (humiliation of a transwoman who had all her affairs in order at that point to live her life as a woman - and therefore every right to join a woman's gym)....I would have written a letter of protest as a paying member.

It's one thing when Manray (back in the day) required people to wear black. People can change their clothes. But a transwoman, if not treated as a woman as she should be, ends up being in limbo, not being able to go into any locker room or any gym. And it seems to me that Healthworks being a woman-friendly place should be supportive to transwomen who might face more discrimination in a co-ed club, and may feel safer in a women-only environment.

Date: 2009-04-21 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rampala.livejournal.com
I would be all there if I didn't have to work. :(

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